In accordance with social distancing best practices during the COVID-19 situation, all public bid openings will be conducted virtually.  The Division of Purchasing will post the dates, times, and links to the bid openings on this page.  When the apparent low bidder or successful vendor (in the case of a Request for Proposals) has been determined, that bid or proposal will be posted on this page as well.  Thank you for your understanding and cooperation during this difficult period.

Please note that bid openings which are scheduled for the same date and time will be conducted in the order in which they are listed below.


Date  Time Description Link to Bid Reception Apparent Low Bidder  Bid Amount
04/18/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2403-002, Sports Lighting & Scoreboards
 Bid reception     
04/11/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2403-006 - Lumber and Assorted Materials 2024  Bid reception     
04/09/24  11:00 a.m. Morris Canal Greenway Section 3, 5, 10, and 11, JC Project # 18-019-E   Bid reception     
04/09/24  11:00 a.m.   Re-Bid #2402-001 - Renosys PVC Membrane System Pool Liner at Pavonia/Marion Pool Bid reception     
03/19/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2402-001 - Renosys PVC Membrane System Pool Liner at Pavonia/Marion Pool  Bid reception     
03/14/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2402-002 - Polyethylene Bags Bid reception     
03/07/24  11:00 a.m.   Bid #2402-006 - Chain Link Fencing 2024 Bid reception     
02/29/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2402-003 - Re-Bid of BLS Emergency Ambulance Services  Bid reception     
02/06/24  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2312-004 - HVAC and Boiler Maintenance Bid reception    
02/06/24  11:00 a.m.   Bid #2022-006 - Coles Street Streetscape Project Bid reception     
01/23/24  11:00 a.m.   Bid #2312-005 - City Wide Tree Planting 2024 Bid reception     
01/18/24  11:00 a.m.   Bid #2312 - 003 - Short-Term Rental Compliance   Bid reception     
12/14/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2311-010 - COBRA/Direct Bill Retiree/FSA TPA  Bid reception Under review   
12/14/23  11:00 a.m. Bid #2311-008 - Grant Application, Coordination, and Compliance   Bid reception  Under review  
11/30/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2311-006 - Lumber & Assorted Materials  Bid reception Continental Hardware, Inc.  $296,020.78 
11/30/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2310-003 - Snow Removal Only  Bid reception  Persistent Construction  $1,102,800.00 
11/28/23  11:00 a.m.  Re-Bid #2310-001 - Salting and Plowing Only  Bid reception   No bids received  
11/21/23  11:00 a.m.  Onsite Medical Services  Bid reception  Under review  
11/21/23  11:00 a.m.  Pershing and Gateway Parks Maintenance  Bid reception  Clarke Moynihan Landscaping and Construction  $383,549.42 
11/02/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2310-001 - Salting and Plowing Only  Bid reception  No bids received - will be re-bid  
10/17/23 11:00 a.m.  Bid #Sanitation - Snow 2024 - Sanitation - Snow Removal Only  Bid reception All bids rejected  
10/12/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2022-036 - Riverview Fisk Park - Artificial Turf
 Bid reception  Adamo Brothers Construction $637,750.00 
9/28/23 11:00 a.m. Bid #2308-002 - Employee Medical Services Bid reception Under review   
09/26/23 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2308-001 - Community Crisis Response to 911 Behavioral Health Calls  Bid reception  Under review   
08/22/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2022-015 - Reservoir # 3 - Jefferson Avenue Bridge  Bid reception  Persistent Construction  $417,360.00 
08/15/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2020-011 - Leonard Gordon Park - Renovation  Bid reception  Adamo Brothers Construction  $1,955,250.00 
08/10/23  11:00 a.m.  Construction Management and Inspection Services for Communipaw Ave, Safety Improvements, JC Project No. 15-004-T, Federal Project No. HSP-1691(300)  Bid reception  Under review   
07/20/23  11:00 a.m.  RFPC Bergen Arches Feasibility  Bid reception  Supermass Studio Landscape Architecture  $99,950.00 
07/06/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2021-028 - 16th Street Park Renovation  Bid reception All bids rejected  
06/15/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2305-001 - 2023 City-Wide Traffic Striping Program  Bid reception  Statewide Striping  $4,568,000.00 
06/01/23  11:00 a.m.   Bid #2305-003 - Summer Food Program 2023  Bid reception  Prime Riv LLC d/b/a Riviera  $427,224.50 
05/16/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2304-001 - RE-BID of 394 Central Avenue - Senior Center - HVAC Improvements  Bid reception WHL Enterprises Inc. t/a Bill Leary Air Conditioning and Heating   $237,500.00 
05/11/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2304-003 - Re-Bid Police Division Customized Agency Policy Manual  Bid reception  Roberts and Associates, LLC  $79,440.00 
04/20/23  11:00 a.m. Bid #2303-002 - Ferry transit service - Port Liberte Ferry Terminal  Bid reception  Port Imperial Ferry Corp  $2,754,360.00 
03/30/23  11:00 a.m. Bid #2021-024 - Johnston Avenue Branch Library - HVAC Improvements Bid reception  WHL Enterprises Inc. t/a Bill Leary Air Conditioning and Heating $234,500.00 
03/28/23 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2023-009 - Hamilton Park Tree Maintenance and Removal  Bid reception  Reliable Tree Services  $42,000.00 
03/23/23 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2021-039 - 394 Central Avenue - Senior Center - HVAC Improvements Bid reception  All bids rejected   
03/02/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #- Sanitation 2023 - Disposal of Various Waste Types  Bid reception  Lincoln Recycling Service $618,100.00 
02/28/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2301-001 - Traffic Calming Toolkit  Bid reception  Sam Schwartz Consulting LLC  $199,854.26
02/02/23 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2202-039 - City Hall Bathroom New Exhaust System Bid reception  WHL Enterprises Inc. t/a Bill Leary Air Conditioning and Heating  $48,000.00
01/31/23  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2212-011 - Towing Services for City Owned Vehicles  Bid reception Truchan Towing and Recovery Inc.  $21,600.00 
01/25/23  11:00 a.m. Employee Assistance Program  Bid reception  New Pathway Counseling  $72,000.00 
01/24/23  11:00 a.m.  RFPC Ferry Transportation Service Port Liberte-Ferry Terminal  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
01/19/23 11:00 a.m. Bid #2212-004 - Property Tax Appraisal Services Bid reception  Integra Realty
Associated Appraisal 		 $75,000.00
$75,000.00
12/15/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2211-011 - Police Division Customized Agency Policy Manual Bid Reception  All bids rejected  
12/14/22  11:00 a.m.  RFP Compensation Primary Care Physician for City Employees Injured on the job  Bid reception  Carepoint Health Medical  $350,000.00 
12/13/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2211-007 - Personal Protective Gear and Uniforms  Bid reception  Turn-Out Fire and Safety, Inc  $6,551,450.00 
12/01/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2210-006 - Morris Canal Greenway Sections 3, 5, 10, and 11  Bid reception  All bids rejected  
11/17/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2210-005 - Congregate Nutrition Program  Bid reception Whealth LLC  $499,993.00 
11/15/22  11:00 a.m.  Retiree and Chapter 375 Direct Billing, COBRA Notices and Flexible Spending Account Claims and Third Party Administration  Bid reception  P & A Administrative  $59,676.00 
11/15/22  11:00 a.m.   RFPC Janitorial Services  Bid reception  T.U.C.S Cleaning Services $1,657,732.06 
11/02/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2210-004 - Maintenance and Repair of Traffic Signals and Flashing Beacons (City-wide) Bid reception  Jen Electric  $2,596,916.00
10/27/22  11:00 a.m. Bid #2209-004 - Language Interpreting Services for the Jersey City Municipal Court  Bid reception Para-Plus Translation  $80,00000 
10/20/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2208-001 - Community Crisis Response to 911 Behavioral Health Calls  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
10/18/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2209-003 - Jersey City Master Plan Update - Historic Preservation Element Bid reception H2M Associates  $103,877.00 
10/06/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2209-01 - Park Maintenance  Bid reception  Clarke Moynihan Landscaping  $811, 582.00 
10/06/22 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2209-02 - Morris Canal Greenway, Sections 3, 5, 10, and 11  Bid reception All bids rejected   
09/21/22  11:00 a.m.  Bid #2208-001 - Community Crisis Response to 911 Behavioral Health Calls Bid reception  No bids received - will be re-bid  
09/08/22  11:00 a.m.  General Maintenance of Various City Parks  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
08/18/22 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2207-004 Comprehensive Animal Control Services  Bid reception  Liberty Humane Society  Year 1 - $692,260.00
Year 2 - $719,950.40 
08/11/22 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2207-002 Financial Advisory Services Bid reception NW Financial Group $300,000.00 
07/28/22 11:00 a.m. Supply and delivery of large black plastic bags (Re-bid)  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
07/20/23  11:00 a.m.  Bergen Arches Feasibility  Bid reception  Under review   
07/20/23  11:00 a.m.  MSC - New Police Training Facility, Project 2021-049  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
07/19/22  11:00 a.m. Oakland Ave and St. Paul's Ave Intersection Improvements Bid reception All bids rejected   
06/07/22 11:00 a.m.  Bid #2204-002: City-wide Traffic Striping Program  Bid reception  Statewide Striping  $2,027,451,20 
05/19/22  11:00 a.m.  JC Master Plan Update - Historic Preservation Element  Bid reception  All bids rejected  
05/12/22  11:00 a.m.  Janitorial 2022 RFP
Bid reception 		 All bids rejected   
05/10/22  11:00 a.m. Caven Point & Liberty Harbor Roadway Preservation Project  Bid reception J. A. Alexander, Inc. $4,436,773.28 
05/03/22  11:00 a.m.  Summer Food Program 2022  Bid reception  Revolutions Foods  $673,748.68 
 04/28/22  11:00 a.m. ATS Court Mailers  Bid reception Bid reception Concept Printing  $79,750.00
 04/28/22  11:00 a.m. Blank Poly Thermal Paper   Bid reception Jon-Dan Printing Co., Inc.  $57,495.00 
04/12/22  11:00 a.m.  Supply and Delivery of Large Black Plastic Bags  Bid reception  All bids rejected   
03/24/22  11:00 a.m. Home Delivered Nutrition Program (Meals on Wheels)  Bid reception  Whitsons Food  $1,300,000.00 
03/08/22  11:00 a.m.  Blank Poly Thermal Paper Rolls for Zebra ZQ520  Bid reception  All bids rejected  
02/03/22  11:00 a.m.  Van Wagenen/Apple Tree House - Exterior Repairs  Bid reception  Louis Gargiulo Company $254,800.00
02/03/22  11:00 a.m.  City Website  Bid reception  All bids rejected  
11/18/21 11:00 a.m.  Repair and Maintenance of Overhead Motorized Doors  Bid reception  Lombardy Door Sales and Service  $54,000.00 
11/09/21  11:00 a.m.   Consulting Services: Jersey City Master Plan - Historic Preservation Element Bid reception  No bids received  
10/26/21  11:00 a.m.  Repair and Maintenance of Motorized Overhead Doors  Bid reception  No bids received   
10/05/21  11:00 a.m.  Van Wagenen/Apple Tree House - Exterior Repairs Bid reception  All bids rejected   
09/21/21  11:00 a.m.  Snow Removal 2021  Bid reception  Control Removal
Ken's Marine
Shark Transportation 		 $3,385,000.00
$1,221,500.00
$2,030,000.00 
09/21/21  11:00 a.m.  Salting and Plowing 2021  Bid reception  Ken's Marine  $3,470,000.00 
09/2/21  11:00 a.m.  Johnston Ave Road Improvements  Bid reception  Reivax Contracting $1,684,580.00 
08/31/21  11:00 a.m.  Ammunition  Bid reception No bidders $
08/24/21  11:00 a.m.  Snow Removal 2021  Bid reception  No bidders - will be re-bid  $ 
08/24/21  11:00 a.m.  Salting and Plowing 2021   Bid reception  No bidders - will be re-bid  $
08/24/21  11:00 a.m. Congregate Nutrition Program  Bid reception Red Rabbit $384,000.00 
08/17/21  11:00 a.m.  Towing Services  Bid reception  No bidders  - will be re-bid  $
08/17/21 11:00 a.m.  Copier Paper  Bid reception No bidders - will be re-bid $ 
08/10/21  11:00 a.m. Congregate Nutrition Program  Bid reception  No bidders - will be re-bid  $ 
08/10/21  11:00 a.m.  Ammunition  Bid reception  No bidders - will be re-bid  $
08/03/21  11:00 a.m.  2021 Road Program Asphalt Resurfacing  Bid reception  Smith Sondy Asphalt Corporation $2,369,113.13 
07/29/21  11:00 a.m. Citywide Speed Humps Bid reception  Murray Paving and Concrete, LLC $442,153.00
07/29/21  11:00 a.m. On-Call Concrete and ADA Ramps  Bid reception Power Concrete $1,969,924.00
07/27/21  11:00 a.m. Copier Paper Bid reception No bids received - will be re-bid
07/27/21 11:00 a.m.  Towing Services Bid reception  No bids received - will be re-bid
06/15/21 11:00 a.m.  Joseph Connors Senior Center - Window Replacement and Wall Repairs  Bid  All bids rejected  
06/10/21  11:00 a.m.  Summer Food Program 2021 Bid reception Red Rabbit $594,861.00
06/08/21  11:00 a.m. Summer Camp 2021: Rental of tents, tables, and chairs (re-bid) Bid reception Tents for Rent $73,496.48 (negotiated)
06/03/21  11:00 a.m. Grand Street Improvements
Project 19-014-E
 Bid reception  J. A. Alexander, Inc $2,686,724.41 
05/25/21  11:00 a.m. Pershing Field Natatorium - Reroofing Bid reception   All bids rejected  
05/25/21  11:00 a.m. Van Vorst and Hamilton Parks - Dog Run Renovations  Bid reception   Picerno Giordano Construction $255,149.00
05/13/21  11:00 a.m. Summer Food Program 2021 Bid reception   All bids rejected - will be re-bid  
04/29/21 11:00 a.m. Rentals of tents, tables, and chairs Bid reception  Sole bidder unresponsive - will be re-bid $ 
04/14/21 11:00 a.m. Beam Clay Baseball Diamond Mix Bid reception  Pabco Industries $113,400.00
04/06/21 11:00 a.m. Grant Writing Consulting Services Bid reception  Millennium Strategies, LLC $768,000.00 (5 yrs)
03/11/21 11:00 a.m.  Supply and Delivery of Trees Bid reception Schichtel's Nursery Inc. $239,000.00 
03/04/21 11:00 a.m. Alternate Transportation Modes Assessment Bid reception Sam Schwartz Consulting, LLC $179,557.73 
03/02/21  11:00 a.m. City Hall First Floor Rehabilitation Phase 1
 Bid reception Kunzman Construction $647,000.00
02/09/21  11:00 a.m.  Management of Voluntary Benefits Bid reception  Moreton Company $0
01/31/23  11:00 a.m.  Towing Services for City-Owned Vehicles  Bid reception  Truchan Towing and Recovery Inc.  $21,600.00
01/26/21 11:00 a.m. Engine Co #10 and Ladder 12 - New Firehouse Bid reception  M&M Construction $5,642,000.00
01/14/21 11:00 a.m.   City Hall First Floor Rehabilitation Phase 1 Bid reception No proposals received 
12/22/20 11:00 a.m. Bike Share Consulting Services Bid reception  Lyft $400,000.00 (Jersey City)
$200,000.00 (Hoboken)
12/08/20 11:00 a.m. Custodial Supplies Bid reception United Sales USA Corporation $97,089.55
12/01/20  11:00 a.m.  Secure Bicycle Parking Systems  Bid reception Modular Streetscape Systems, Inc. $3,999,850.50
12/01/20  11:00 a.m. Newark Avenue - Pedestrian Plaza  Bid reception JC Contracting $6,887,996.96
12/01/20  11:00 a.m.  Johnston Avenue Road Improvements Bid reception  All bids rejected  
11/05/20  11:00 a.m. Engine #10 and Ladder #12 Firehouse  Bid reception  All bids rejected  
10/27/20 11:00 a.m.  Transmission Repairs Bid reception   All bids rejected
10/22/20  11:00 a.m.  Kiosk and Snack Bar Concession  Bid reception   No proposals received $ 
10/15/20  11:00 a.m. Moving Company Services  Bid reception Nelson Westerberg of NJ $251,225.00
10/06/20  11:00 a.m.  Auto Collision Repairs Bid reception  Plaza Auto Body
Diamond Auto Body
Vavi's Auto Sales		 $169,000.00
$174,000.00
$210,000.00 
10/01/20 11:00 a.m.  394 Central Avenue Roof Bid reception White Rock Corporation $146,000.00
09/17/20
11:00 a.m.
 Sports Lighting and Scoreboards at Numerous Ballfields
Bid reception
Encon Mechanical  $185,290.00 
09/10/20
11:00 a.m.
 Plumbing Supplies
 Bid reception
 Duncan Hardware  $173,624.10 
08/25/20
 11:00 a.m.
Reservoir #3 - Site Safety Improvements
 Bid reception
Cypreco Industries, Inc.
 $1,843,823.00
08/20/20
11:00 a.m.
 Maintenance of Irrigation Systems
Bid reception
Ascape Landscape and Construction Corporation
 $124,350.00
08/20/20
 11:00 a.m.
 Arlington Park - Improvements
Bid reception
 All bids rejected
08/18/20
11:00 a.m.
 Workers Compensation - Primary Care Physician
Bid reception
Carepoint Health Medical Group
 $350,000.00
08/13/20
11:00 a.m.
Payroll and Human Resources Data Processing Services
Bid reception
 UnicornHRO, LLC
 $400,100.00
08/13/20
11:00 a.m.
 Chain Link Fencing
Bid reception
 Willie's Fence, LLC
$296,324.00
08/11/20
11:00 a.m.
Audubon Park - Improvements
Bid reception
Picerno-Giordano Construction, LLC
 $862,091.00
08/11/20
 11:00 a.m.
 Ferris Triangle Park - Improvements
Bid reception
 A-Tech Concrete
 $699,200.00
08/11/20
11:00 a.m.
Janitorial Services
Bid reception
 All bids rejected $
08/06/20 11:00 a.m. 
Plumbing Supplies
 Bid reception
No bids received - will be re-advertised.
 $
08/04/20
 11:00 a.m.
Ferris Triangle Park Improvements
 Bid reception
Adamo Brothers Construction
$726,700.00
07/30/20
 11:00 a.m.
Solid Waste and Recyclable Materials (Night Collection)
 Bid reception
Regional Industries, LLC
Year    Group A Total         Group B Total
1           $11,100,000.00     $4,000,000.00
2           $11,300,000.00     $4,000,000.00
3           $11,500,000.00     $4,000,000.00
4           $11,700,000.00     $4,000,000.00
5           $11,900,000.00     $4,000,000.00

Grand total (5 years): $77,500,000.00
07/30/20
11:00 a.m.
 Boyd McGuiness Park (Shade Structure)
 Bid reception
Adamo Brothers Construction
 $73,620.00
07/28/20
11:00 a.m.
 Bike Share Services
 Bid reception Lyft, Inc
$0
07/28/20
 11:00 a.m.
 Pershing Field Court Replacement
 Bid reception
Picerno-Giordano Construction, LLC

$581,684.00 (Total Price for Grand Total Base Bid Plus Alternates A & B)
07/23/20
 11:00 a.m.
Security Guard Services
 Bid reception
Gateway Security
 Year 1 - $1,770,901.86
Year 2 - $1,859,733.46
Year 3 - $1,949,428.52
Total - $5,580,063.84
07/23/20
11:00 a.m.
Small Tools and Hardware Supplies
Bid reception
Duncan Hardware, Inc
 $189,605.79
07/21/20
11:00 a.m.
Asphalt Materials
Bid reception
Tilcon New York, Inc
 $174,000.00
07/21/20
 11:00 a.m.
Disposition and Marketing of Commingled Materials
Bid reception
 Sims Municipal Recycling
 Year 1 - $800,000.00
Year 2 - $800,000.00
Total - $1,600,000.00
07/16/20 11:00 a.m. Thermal Imaging Cameras Bid reception AAA Emergency Supply Co., Inc.
$139,900.00
07/14/20  11:00 a.m. 2020 Road Program, Concrete and ADA Ramps  Bid reception  Power Concrete Co, Inc  $1,969,924.00
07/09/20
11:00 a.m.
2020 Road Program, Asphalt Resurfacing
 Bid reception
 J. A. Alexander, Inc $2,315,981.70 
07/07/20
11:00 a.m. Central Avenue Streetscape and Roadway Improvements Bid reception Cifelli and Son General Construction
$3,999,850.50
07/07/20
 11:00 a.m.
Mary McLeod Bethune Park
 Bid reception
Zenith Construction Services, Inc
 $2,484,000.00
06/25/20 11:00 a.m. Hardware Supplies Bid reception  Continental Hardware, Inc. $80,075.00
06/16/20  11:00 a.m. Engine Co. #22 - Facade Restoration  Bid reception  Paragon Restoration $451,401.00
06/11/20  11:00 a.m.  Van Vorst Park Improvements Bid reception Picerno-Giordano Construction, LLC $211,054.00 
06/09/20  11:00 a.m.  Citywide Tree Planting Bid reception Eastern Landscape Contractors, Inc $510,000.00 
06/09/20 11:00 a.m. Summer Food Program Bid reception Red Rabbit, LLC $758,076.54
06/09/20 11:00 a.m.  Small Tools and Hardware Supplies Bid reception No bids received - will be re-advertised  $ 
06/04/20  11:00 a.m.  Asphalt Materials  Bid reception  No bids received - will be re-advertised  $
06/04/20  11:00 a.m.  City-wide Traffic Striping Program Bid reception  Statewide Striping Co. $1,165,251.00
05/28/20  11:00 a.m.  Accounting Services  Bid reception  Donohoe, Gironda, Doria, and Tompkins Year 1 - $299,000.00
Year 2 - $299,000.00
Total - $598,000.00
05/21/20  11:00 a.m. Consolidated Affordable Housing Portal Bid reception Electricbaby, Inc $500,000.00
05/21/20  11:00 a.m. Johnston Avenue Road Improvements Bid reception  All bids rejected  
05/19/20 11:00 a.m. Light Automotive Repairs Bid reception Multiple awards may be made
A&B Undercar Repair
AGM Transmission
Dave's Transmission
Jack's Service (Rejected)
Vavi's Autosales LLC
Zoland Corporation
$302,000.00
$305,000.00
$241,000.00
$ ------
$305,000.00
$290,000.00
05/19/20 11:00 a.m. Hardware Supplies Bid reception No bids received - will be re-advertised  $
05/14/20 11:00 a.m. Grass Cutting and Park Maintenance Bid reception Gene's Landscaping, Inc  Snow removal: $5,400/inch
Option A: $794,800
Option B: $794,817
Option C: $794,800
Option D: Did not bid
05/14/20 11:00 a.m. Employee Medical Services Bid reception Jersey City Medical Center $471,062.00
05/14/20 11:00 a.m. Property Tax Appraisal Services Bid reception Associated Appraisal Group, Inc
Integra Realty Resources - NNJ, LLC 		 $35,000.00
$35,000.00
05/12/20 11:00 a.m.   Bus Shelters w/Advertising  Bid reception A. R. James   $0
05/12/20 11:00 a.m.  Electrical Supplies  Bid reception City Electric Supply  $54,628.74
05/12/20 11:00 a.m.  Small tools and Hardware Supplies   Bid reception No bids received - will be re-advertised  $
05/07/20 11:00 a.m.  City Wide Tree Planting 2020 Bid reception   Sole bidder was unresponsive  $